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Loving this series thus far. Great stuff.

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Thank you very much. I’m enjoying writing it.

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Someone sent me this. Interesting take. I will continue reading this year.

I should point out that I am not a nationalist, Christian or otherwise, as I see nationalism a concept that doesn't resonate in America. I said this directly in my NatCon 3 address, as well as explicitly rejecting Christian nationalism. See:

https://www.aaronrenn.com/p/christian-nationalism

https://americanmind.org/features/what-is-christian-nationalism/nationalism-isnt-american/

Of these groups, my policy preferences are actually towards the neo-Hamiltonian view (I've written for American Affairs multiple times). Though I am Protestant and believe it is undeniable that America is a historically and culturally Protestant country.

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It's a great honour to have somebody with as high of a profile as you read my material.

I will issue corrections. Was my characterisation of American Reformer broadly accurate? If it was accurate for most I'll just remove you from mention, if that's okay?

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I don't speak for American Reformer institutionally, but I would say that it does not take a position on Christian nationalism, with a spectrum of views on it. But it is definitely a contrast with many other groups, who view Christian nationalism as the unpardonable sin. I would look at the various individuals to see their particular views. It's always difficult to classify people into schemas as I'd be the first to tell you.

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I hope you don't mind but I've removed you. I'm not sure how I'll slot you into the series. I know it's nice to be mentioned, but I also don't want to be inaccurate, and I just kind of assumed the 'political protestants' were sort of the same, which obviously isn't the case.

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That's quite alright. To be honest, I wouldn't care about what people said, except that an article like this can be cited by another source as evidence that I hold particular views. So I've made a practice of setting the record straight whenever I get described as a Christian nationalist, something that I don't do for most other things.

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Yeah that's fair enough. Thank you for the clarification. I'd be glad to have other people I've mentioned issue corrections, as I'm trying to be mostly impartial, even though making the distinctions is subjective in many cases as there is broad overlap.

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Excellent series. Much-needed. Can't wait for the next installment.

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R. R. Reno is Catholic, so why include him as Protestant Nationalist? I would have thought he’d be closer to Catholic integralist, though First Things isn’t supposed to be Catholic only.

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Mar 15·edited Mar 15Author

Thanks for the correction. I've removed him.

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Mar 15·edited Mar 15Author

I edited the last article to include him in 'Populist Christian Democrat'. He seems to support subsidiarity and Christian pluralism in a way the High Integralists don't.

https://www.firstthings.com/article/2022/12/church-state-and-the-common-good

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Sir, there is a detailed manifesto on J'accuse laying out exactly what 'faction' it belongs to and it is not especially 'Fusionist'.

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Could you send me the article? I will correct it.

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Great article. I’d say I hold a mix of Federalist & Anti-Federalist beliefs. I believe in the Hierarchical and Elitist system of the Federalists, but I like the localism of the Anti-Federalist and Catholic Subsidiary.

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I’m with you there to be honest.

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Where would you put Doug Wilson?

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Protestant Christian Nationalist.

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By the end of this series, I'll need a graph of Venn diagrams and vectors to keep each segment, person, and publisher in order

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Very enjoyable read.

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Something I don't understand about this grouping. It seems like the Neo-Hamiltonians and the Protestant Nationalists disagree on basically every issue. Did I miss some issue on which they agree?

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They are both nationalist and anti-immigration.

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