Your description of the dissident right really suggests it as a very nascent faction.
It reads like: Over here we have a Jewish Elite technocrat that thinks he is a dark elf and wants the world to be formalized. And over here is a bunch of guys who are obsessed with being super buff. And over here is a hyper-intelligent man who hates technology so much that he sends bombs to random people in the mail. And here is a doom-mongering British guy who is obsessed with the hand gestures of a British Politician from the 90s who he believes is the dark lord. And over here we have some very dedicated traditional Catholics.
In any other time, you would never categorize these people in the same group, but here we are. The political gimbals really have changed.
I listened to a lecture by Thiel recently where he mentions BAP and it surprised me. Never realized how big of an influence he had thru Claremont and others. I think there is a lot of overlap. I’ve been reading into your takes on Techno-Optomism and what I can only call the “Secular Right” and I think we agree on a lot of things. Very well done sir.
Oh I’m aware and it makes me angry but it’s progress non the less, I suspect the younger generation will continue to gravitate towards Ted, I’d also like if Neil postman and pentti Linkola became more mainstream
I agree that GMO’S are not necessarily bad, but there’s a lot of slop with modern food and I don’t think it would hurt if they put labels on food containers. Just my two cents. Peace ✌🏻
Been anticipating this one the most since the first teaser of all the factions, mainly to learn more about the BAPists and the Neo-Luddite tendency, which for the most part I always felt had a strong left-leaning element but I can see how many on the right would be sympathetic. Great work again!
No BAP-swarm commenting here? I would correct some minor mischaracterisations, but pedantry is but one letter distant from peasantry (if you aristocratically mis-spell one or the other, as Alcibiades would) so never mind.
I don't see any evidence that BAP is a homosexual. Perceiving admiration of the male form as necessarily homosexual is precisely the kind of thing that he inveighs against (it's a trick to bring you into client relationship with the longhouse and whatnot).
"BAP puts forward the narrative that women have almost always controlled society behind the scenes, with Ancient Greece and the Enlightenment-era West."
I think this is at least partially wrong. Ancient Greek poleis were great precisely because they were *not* longhoused, though admittedly he seems to think that great men were necessary to break the veil of sclerotic nomos and bring renewal of Indo-European ethos of freedom and careless aristocratic violence--the only path to excellence.
Broadly speaking: grain enjoyers = longhoused; pastoralists = discoverers of physis and breeding, and pursuers of conquest.
In this house Columbus, Nietzsche, Alcibiades, Kaczynski, Hitler, Charlemagne, Caesar, Baldwin IV, Christ, Ford, Lee, and Mishima are heroes, end of story!
Where do philosophically pessimist blackpillers who think this world is controlled by the Demiurge and otherwise believe the core problems are Christian-derived egalitarianism with a superimposed parasitical worldwide Rothschild/Jewish central banking system belong? And who think the answer is a gnostic, spiritual, individuated turn within? :)
The populists are certainly not anti-democracy. And that would seem to incorporate someone like Keith Woods. The idea that elites are thwarting the will of the people and are entirely too International.
As someone who likely falls into the "Christian Parallelist" camp, I appreciate your categorical analysis. I used to be really into the "Classical Neoreactionary" camp as well but have drifted away somewhat, partially due to touching grass and partially due to seeing non-stop, autistically-analytical doomerism. The whole Keith Woods, Academic Agent fight turned me away from AA as, while I disagree with Keith Woods ideologically, I do think it's retarded to argue that you're somehow above ideology itself.
It seems what unifies all these groups is, obviously primarily opposition to the current regime but also the desire to return to some form of real, meta-physical epistemology and identity. I'd say this unities all of these groups aside from some of the original "Classical Neoreactionaries," though perhaps I'm just projecting and the only real shared unity is a common enemy.
I just started a series on "what is a conservative", because a fren called me dissident right, and I find it synchronistic timing that I should have found your substack via the New Right Poast. I have learned a lot here. Thank you.
Your description of the dissident right really suggests it as a very nascent faction.
It reads like: Over here we have a Jewish Elite technocrat that thinks he is a dark elf and wants the world to be formalized. And over here is a bunch of guys who are obsessed with being super buff. And over here is a hyper-intelligent man who hates technology so much that he sends bombs to random people in the mail. And here is a doom-mongering British guy who is obsessed with the hand gestures of a British Politician from the 90s who he believes is the dark lord. And over here we have some very dedicated traditional Catholics.
In any other time, you would never categorize these people in the same group, but here we are. The political gimbals really have changed.
I listened to a lecture by Thiel recently where he mentions BAP and it surprised me. Never realized how big of an influence he had thru Claremont and others. I think there is a lot of overlap. I’ve been reading into your takes on Techno-Optomism and what I can only call the “Secular Right” and I think we agree on a lot of things. Very well done sir.
I love the right is becoming more environmentally conscious, that was and still is a big issue for me with the mainstream right
I'd like it to be more. Climate change denial is still very mainstream within it.
Oh I’m aware and it makes me angry but it’s progress non the less, I suspect the younger generation will continue to gravitate towards Ted, I’d also like if Neil postman and pentti Linkola became more mainstream
I agree that GMO’S are not necessarily bad, but there’s a lot of slop with modern food and I don’t think it would hurt if they put labels on food containers. Just my two cents. Peace ✌🏻
Been anticipating this one the most since the first teaser of all the factions, mainly to learn more about the BAPists and the Neo-Luddite tendency, which for the most part I always felt had a strong left-leaning element but I can see how many on the right would be sympathetic. Great work again!
Cheers. Glad I didn’t disappoint!
Capital work once more
No BAP-swarm commenting here? I would correct some minor mischaracterisations, but pedantry is but one letter distant from peasantry (if you aristocratically mis-spell one or the other, as Alcibiades would) so never mind.
What are those mischaracterisations?
I don't see any evidence that BAP is a homosexual. Perceiving admiration of the male form as necessarily homosexual is precisely the kind of thing that he inveighs against (it's a trick to bring you into client relationship with the longhouse and whatnot).
"BAP puts forward the narrative that women have almost always controlled society behind the scenes, with Ancient Greece and the Enlightenment-era West."
I think this is at least partially wrong. Ancient Greek poleis were great precisely because they were *not* longhoused, though admittedly he seems to think that great men were necessary to break the veil of sclerotic nomos and bring renewal of Indo-European ethos of freedom and careless aristocratic violence--the only path to excellence.
Broadly speaking: grain enjoyers = longhoused; pastoralists = discoverers of physis and breeding, and pursuers of conquest.
> I think this is at least partially wrong. Ancient Greek poleis were great precisely because they were *not* longhoused
This was a typo which I have since fixed. I meant that those were some of the few exceptions according to BAP.
aha ok no problem
You forgot to mention how funny BAPs Twitter/X account can be. It’s one of his best attributes.
Yes yes xe very funny east bloc men
In this house Columbus, Nietzsche, Alcibiades, Kaczynski, Hitler, Charlemagne, Caesar, Baldwin IV, Christ, Ford, Lee, and Mishima are heroes, end of story!
Where do philosophically pessimist blackpillers who think this world is controlled by the Demiurge and otherwise believe the core problems are Christian-derived egalitarianism with a superimposed parasitical worldwide Rothschild/Jewish central banking system belong? And who think the answer is a gnostic, spiritual, individuated turn within? :)
Excellent! I learned a bit. Thank you.
I thought it was Carl Benjamin who popularized 'sensible centrist'. Possibly I heard it from him first, or I could be mistaken.
The populists are certainly not anti-democracy. And that would seem to incorporate someone like Keith Woods. The idea that elites are thwarting the will of the people and are entirely too International.
I don't think BAP is ghey he just promotes idolization of The Brotherhood on "Handsome Thursdays"
The Brotherhood of sexy ripped bodybuilders oiled up and copulating with large breasted anime girls to produce a new caste of higher organisms, yes.
As someone who likely falls into the "Christian Parallelist" camp, I appreciate your categorical analysis. I used to be really into the "Classical Neoreactionary" camp as well but have drifted away somewhat, partially due to touching grass and partially due to seeing non-stop, autistically-analytical doomerism. The whole Keith Woods, Academic Agent fight turned me away from AA as, while I disagree with Keith Woods ideologically, I do think it's retarded to argue that you're somehow above ideology itself.
It seems what unifies all these groups is, obviously primarily opposition to the current regime but also the desire to return to some form of real, meta-physical epistemology and identity. I'd say this unities all of these groups aside from some of the original "Classical Neoreactionaries," though perhaps I'm just projecting and the only real shared unity is a common enemy.
I just started a series on "what is a conservative", because a fren called me dissident right, and I find it synchronistic timing that I should have found your substack via the New Right Poast. I have learned a lot here. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed. Two more parts coming out.