At last, we are at the end of the series.
This entry will discuss the Manosphere and the Conspiracists of the Online Right.
This entry will be written in less of a ‘neutral point of view’ style and more of an opinionated style. This is because I find neutrality impossible when talking about these topics, particularly the latter of the two, which I will explain in further detail in the section itself.
Let's begin.
Manosphere
The Manosphere is an extremely broad grouping that is defined only by its opposition to feminism. There are many subgroups within it; some are religious, some are not. They represent all races and classes of men. But the underlying theme is a criticism of feminism that spirals into a general hatred of women as a whole group.
The term ‘Red-Pill’ outside of ‘The Matrix’ was popularised by the Manosphere, not by Curtis Yarvin, despite them later becoming interwoven with one another. In the Manosphere definition, a man is ‘Red-Pilled’ when he accepts the reality of the dating world being inherently Social Darwinist, and that the feminist view of the sexes: that they are fundamentally the same, and the ‘polite courtesies’ that attractive women tell low-status men, such as: ‘oh, you’ll find someone, be yourself’, are all lies.
The Manosphere emphasises broadly accurate statistics that 80% of women go for the top 20% of guys, and that feminism, due to increasing economic and educational parity between men and women, has meant that ‘Chads’ get a highly disproportionate share of sex. This is because women on average won’t date or sleep with men lower in status than them (Hypergamy), despite the lie of feminism supporting equality.
It’s these double standards, between what feminism claims women want vs what they actually want, that is a core component of the Manosphere.
Gamergate
I expect many people will be familiar with Gamergate. Kickstarting the ‘Anti-SJW Movement’, it was a ‘genesis point’ for virtually the entire online right-wing space, not just the Manosphere.
To put it very simply, there was this dispute about ‘ethics in game’s journalism’ with some woman doing questionable stuff to get her game a good review. But of course that wasn’t what it was really about; it was instead about the feminist takeover of gaming culture and society in general.
People like Carl Benjamin (Sargon of Akkad) came to prominence in this movement, though he has become a much more erudite figure in recent years, and I wouldn't class him as ‘Manosphere’ today.
A retrospective on Gamergate happened recently on ‘X’. Some of the more ‘wet’ Anti-SJW YouTubers like Shoe0nHead and ChrisRayGun, insisted that it really had only been about ‘ethics in games journalism’, and people should stop getting worked up about ‘pronouns in games’.
But Gamergate and what it represented was something entirely different to most of their audience; indeed, it was the ‘Red-Pilling’ of so many Zoomer men. The ‘free-speech’ and ‘stop politicising everything’ that some of the original anti-SJWs are still stuck to, does not wash with the base anymore.
Pick-Up Artists
Another subset of the Manosphere, properly a component part rather than just spreading and popularising it like Gamergate, is the relatively mainstream pick-up artistry (PUA) scene. This started in earnest in the 2000s with the publication of Neil Strauss’s 2005 book ‘The Game’. It is a book that gives men tips to enable them to be ‘players’ with women, which has a mixture of good and questionable advice.
The PUA scene grew, with men paying thousands of dollars to learn the ‘secret’ of how to be good with women.
Some PUA’s genuinely were interested in helping men in the dating arena, and I do believe that they were, and are continuing to do, a great public service. Because of the PUA scene, many can benefit from the numerous dating advice YouTube channels, especially if one has conditions like autism.
However, some of the ideology and sentiment around PUA was toxic. In ‘The Game’, a large part of it was not simply confidence, but making women feel underconfident and inferior through the process of ‘negging’. Roosh V was a big advocate in the toxic side of the ‘Red-Pill’ PUA (until he became a fundamentalist Christian, with similar hatred of women). And it’s this belief that attracting women is a zero-sum game, and the sexes are locked in competition, that defines the Manosphere.
Incels
A lot of the first Incels (Involuntary Celibates) were people who felt they had been cheated by the Red-Pill PUA’s, and so fell into an online pit of despair and rage at their inability to attract women.
On a personal level, I do sympathise, but Incels do themselves no favours by lashing out at women for whom their predicament is not their fault, especially as they often desire women outside their league. Of course, every man wants an attractive girlfriend, but of course those women are going to want somebody equal or above them in value. A lot of this is about physical attractiveness, yes. But life isn’t fair. If you want society to accommodate you and glorify your victimhood, then you should go and join the Woke side.
The black-pilling that Incels constantly engage in guarantees that their misery will always be a self-fulfilling prophecy. Virtually nobody benefits from the cycle of despair that is the Incel community, least of all themselves.
Tatesphere
I actually don’t think all of the ‘Manosphere’ is bad. Jordan Peterson may count as part of it, particularly in his early days.
However, once Jordan Peterson fizzled out, as he became more unstable and prone to outbursts, and therefore a much less appealing figure, the Manosphere took a far more destructive turn. The worst of the Manosphere is personified with people like Andrew Tate.
I don’t believe that Andrew Tate should have been deplatformed, but on a personal level he is a pimp and a thug. He scams thousands with his ‘Hustlers University’, profits off vulnerable and abused women, and gleefully celebrates psychologically and physically abusing women as an example of being a ‘true Chad’.
The ‘Tatesphere’, despite the regime’s attack on Andrew Tate being for terrible, anti-male reasons, is toxic, and is not a positive set of beliefs to instil in young men.
Conclusion
Mary Harrington discusses how the sexes need to have a strong sense of interdependence and cooperation, and when this doesn’t exist, ‘gender wars’ happen.
The Manosphere is a place filled with resentment, despair, and black-pilling. It helps nobody. They do not help themselves, either complaining on the internet or giving money to scumbags. And they make sure to repel women by appearing extremely ‘low-class’.
I’m not saying we should go out of our way to appeal to women by dumbing ourselves down, this space will remain a primarily masculine one and in many ways that is a positive. But we shouldn’t go out of our way to repel the women that do share our beliefs. Therefore, as a whole, despite agreeing with some of their sentiments, the Manosphere as a whole is a cesspool.
Conspiracy Theorists
This is the main faction that I cannot be ‘neutral’ on, as it isn’t a worldview based on ideology, but on an alternate set of facts.
This is the MAGA base, Alex Jones, the anti-vax movement, QAnon, people who go on constantly about Klaus Schwab and the World Economic Forum (WEF), people who think that climate change is a hoax, etcetera.
Alex Jones is of course the most famous, who can now be seen to be controlled opposition (he, in all his kookiness, is allowed back on X whereas Jared Taylor remains banned). Others include Russell Brand, the cartoonist Ben Garrison, Piers Corbyn, and at the even more looney fringe people like David Icke. People on Substack I would put in this category are eugyppius and Morgthorak the Undead.
I understand why people are distrustful of established scientific narratives, especially when such credentialed authorities have done so little to deserve such trust, for instance their shameful endorsement of draconian Covid restrictions, and most horrifically, transgenderism.
But the major logical fallacy of conspiracy theories is similar to that of religion. They can’t all be true at once, so why do people believe in anti-vax but not say that the moon landings were faked, or that the entire elite of the West is actually made up of lizards? You are choosing to believe in one conspiracy but not the other. Why?
Conspiracy theorists use circular reasoning. They will not cross-reference sources, only look at sources that confirm their viewpoints. They will take an emotional knee-jerk reaction to something, and instead of using the ‘Principle of Parsimony’ to suggest the most likely outcome based on the evidence available, only trust sources that parrot out what they have already decided, what is known as ‘Circular Reasoning’.
Am I perfect in this regard? No. Of course not. I will, consciously or unconsciously, interpret the data to come to a certain viewpoint. But I will try not to. I mostly use establishment sources UNLESS there is significant evidence for why the establishment cannot be trusted, in accordance with the Parsimony Principle.
Whilst some may interpret this as adhering to establishment epistemology, I do it to stop myself from jumping straight into the conspiracy deep-end, for there is an infinite amount of stuff that ‘could’ be true, and some source, somewhere, will say it is.
Conspiratorial elements on the Right just take little soundbites and make it part of a globalist plot, even the most mundane things like ‘15 Minute Cities’. I would argue that the United Nations is a more destructive force in pushing Wokeism than the WEF, the latter of which could be ‘flipped’ quite easily if Wokeism was proven to hurt the bottom line.
Effect of Conspiracist Elements on the Anti-Woke Movement
Anti-vax, climate change denial, hysteria around GMOs and artificial meat, and numerous other kooky theories make anti-Woke politics toxic to the high IQ and cause the immense elite human capital problem we have, and are also just generally destructive for humanity.
Refusing vaccination causes mass deaths from preventable diseases, climate change destroys the beauty of the natural world, and hysteria around GMOs and artificial meat means we are prevented from utilising technologies that could rapidly increase food production whilst preventing destruction of the environment.
These tendencies, whilst built on an understandable distrust of certain establishment narratives (Wokeism and Covid mandates), add NOTHING of value. It is a shame that, as Scott Greer has said, if there was any faction of the online Sensible Centre that was dominant, it would be the ‘Conspiracy’ faction, with people like Tucker Carlson echoing some of their moronic talking points as he becomes increasingly audience captured.
It may seem I’m being snobbish, and yes, maybe that’s true. I have intellectual and aesthetic standards that I want to see, and these groups just dumb-down the entire space. These low-IQ followers attracted to this stuff need to be guided in the right direction by people who know better. Elites are inevitable, so they should be good ones rather than pimps like Andrew Tate or lunatics like Alex Jones.
By far the most frustrating thing is that the facts are on the side of the anti-Woke, so these conspiratorial elements are just so completely unnecessary and counterproductive.
Conclusion
So, these are some of the most toxic tendencies I’ve spoken about in my opinion, yet because they connect to the uneducated, low-IQ base of the Right, they are probably the two most influential.
Of course, the online space is a democracy, and people who say what the people want to hear will get to be elites in that space. Whilst Elon’s liberation of Twitter was a godsend in many ways, it did allow the dumbest voices to take up airtime, whereas in the censorship regime more sophisticated analysis needed to be offered to get past the censors.
Anyway, this series is finally completed. It has been immensely successful and has made me a semi-influential figure in the Dissident Right space, for which I entirely owe the New Right Poast for their mentions. I hope to provide insightful content to those who have subscribed and followed, even if I will give my opinions and they may disagree.
Conspiracy Theorists tend to be environmentally sensitive, but unable to epistemologically explain their phenomenon. Under a humble elite, they would be guided towards an answer that matches the facts to their senses.
Take the Moon Landing Hoax, for example: Did we land on the moon? Probably, by the skin of our teeth. But did we engage in delivering the promises of the Moon Landing? absolutely not. There was an implicit promise that our society would explore and conquer where no man had gone before; There was a real frontier spirit. The inability/unwillingness to go further proves the moon landing to be a hoax.
It was something that was there to trick and deceive the public and all discussions about the moon landing center on the point of “why can’t we go back? Why can’t we go forward?”
This meme leads people to look closer and find incongruities in us even going in the first place.
Conspiracy Theories, when not epistemologically true (occasionally they are), tend towards being mimetically true. The confusion between memes and epistemology lies at the heart of conspiracy. Yes, congress and Hollywood is made up of lizard men, but is it a meme or a fact? Yes, the world has been flattened by rationalism, but is the earth’s real state, a meme or a fact? Yes, there is a cabal of pedophiles running the world, but are these 4chan posts, memes or facts?
In Post-Modernism, The discrimination is tougher than you might think, which is why humility is the main virtue that I would like to see out of anyone who is attempting, especially because memes have a tendency on a long enough time scale to create facts.
I read your section on the manosphere with great interest, as I plan to put something about feminism on substack in the near future and there was a lot of information I was not familiar with (never having spent any time with the manosphere). However, I wondered about your statement describing Roosh V as " fundamentalist Christian, with similar hatred of women."
There are many different sorts of Christians - they are people too you know, and come in different shades, sizes and colors, some not so appealing - but I don't see how anyone serious about the Bible could be guilty of hatred of women. The Bible teaches that God created us male and female - are we to despise what God has made? Paul also points out that men and women both need each other - without women we would not be here ("Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man" I Corinthians 1:11). True, the Bible has teachings about women at home and in the church that are not agreeable to most people today, but that is not hatred.
Plus, I do not thing the hard sciences have anything to say about the existence or non-existence of God, the reality of a life after death, and so on. Science is confined to the material plane, but there are spiritual realities and other ways of being and knowing apart from the sciences. The fact that people disagree about the nature of God does not constitute and argument against his existence in some form or another.